Colour Code

We talk to:

• Ian Campeau of A Tribe Called Red
• Kamal Al-Solaylee, author of Brown: What Being Brown in the World Today Means (to Everyone)

Suggested reading:

• Kamal Al-Solaylee on Trump’s win, “Don’t kid yourself: This was all about race”
• “How to Stay Sane While Black,” on racism and mental health, by Morgan Parker
• On the Debt and Deportation episode of NPR's Death, Sex and Money, Diane Guerrero of Orange is the New Black discusses the effect of her parents’ deportation on her own addiction and mental health issues

We talk to:

• Andre Gagnon, a resident of Sutton
• Colin and Terry Berwick, parents of Shayne Berwick, who was injured in a 2007 car crash
• Avvy Go, director, Metro Toronto Chinese and Southeast Asian Legal Clinic
• Brad Lee, a Chinese-Canadian community advocate and hobby fisher
• Taro Murata, a fishing tour guide
• Sandi Rait, a homeowner in Sutton

Suggested reading:

• The 2007 story that introduced us to Sutton
• A more recent story about racial tension there

We talk to:

• Henry Yu, a history professor at the University of British Columbia
• Melissa Wu, realtor with Keller Williams Black Diamond Realty
• Andy Yan, director of The City Program at Simon Fraser University
• Claudia Kwan, a real estate reporter in Vancouver

Suggested reading:

• “Is the B.C. property levy on ‘foreign buyers’ a new head tax?,” an op-ed Henry Yu wrote for The Globe in September
• Andy Yan’s 2015 data set analyzing the names of recent buyers in Vancouver in an attempt to determine citizenship
• Frances Bula’s story on “the dragon in the room”, which explores the hostility some Chinese immigrants are facing in Vancouver

We talk to:

• Robin DiAngelo
• Zameer Karim, former producer, and Ian Power, former host, CKNW
• Larry Gifford, program director, CKNW

Suggested reading:

• The original CBC-Angus Reid poll story entitled “Canadians want minorities to do more to ‘fit in’”
• The White Flight of Derek Black by Eli Saslow
• A great video project from the Seattle Times in which people of all backgrounds discuss White Fragility (among other terms)
• Meredith Clark on whether social relationships are the key to diversity in media

We talk to:

• Musician Fritz Helder, who grew up in Whitehorse, Yukon
• Ann Hui, the Globe's national food reporter
• William Choy, mayor of Stony Plain, Alta. and owner of Bing's #1 Restaurant in Stony Plain
• Peter Li and Linda Xie, owners of Diana Restaurant in Drumheller, Alta.

Suggested reading:

• Chop Suey Nation, Ann's cross-country story about the immigrant history, and vibrant present, of Chinese-Canadian food

We talk to:

• Sylvia D. Hamilton, a filmmaker and professor at University of Kings College in Halifax
• Naila Keleta-Mae, a professor at the University of Waterloo and Globe op-ed contributor
• Celeste Yim, a comedian and student at the University of Toronto

Suggested reading:

• Naila’s column from last summer on Black Lives Matter: It’s dramatic, unsettling and inconvenient. That’s the point
• Robin DiAngelo’s essay on White Fragility, mentioned in this episode
• Denise's column on why it's hard to say “white” — and why it's important that we do

We talk to:

• Globe reporter Sherrill Sutherland, who is biracial herself
• Paul and Victoria Martin, a Black man and Chinese woman raising their family in Markham, Ont.
• Globe reporter Zosia Bielski, who covers relationships
• University of Toronto Scarborough professor Minelle Mahtani, author of Mixed Race Amnesia: Resisting the Romanticization of Multiraciality in Canada

Suggested reading:

• Zosia’s full Q&A with Prof. Mahtani
• How My White Mother Helped Me Find My Blackness, an essay by Ijeoma Oluo

We talk to:

• Guests at a premiere of a Heritage Minute about civil rights hero Viola Desmond
• Mohammed Hashim, labour activist and organizer of the online Muslim community Dawanet
• Akio Maroon, human rights advocate and chair of Maggie’s Sex Work Action Project
• Denise’s brothers, Ian and Tony, Canadian expats in the U.S.

Suggested reading:

• Tavia Grant digs into data on race, health, employment and crime in both countries, and talks to people who have lived on both sides of the border
• Columnist Doug Saunders compares the experiences of black people in Canada and the U.S.

Suggested reading:

• Here’s a text Q&A excerpt from our conversation
• Here’s an interview from the Evening Standard that sparked M.I.A.'s #MuslimLivesMatter controversy, as referenced in our conversation
• And the 2010 New York Times magazine profile of M.I.A. that was written by Lynn Hirschberg

We talk to:

• Naheed Nenshi, the mayor of Calgary
• Cameron Bailey, artistic director of the Toronto International Film Festival

Suggested reading:

• Here’s the essay on Canadian pluralism that Mayor Nenshi wrote for us during the election last year
• And this is Cameron Bailey’s essay on #OscarsSoWhite from earlier this year during the Oscars race
• Two articles we mention in this podcast are Cord Jefferson’s essay The Racism Beat and Jenna Wortham’s Black Health Matters

We talk to:

• Stephanie Pangowish, a comedian with the indigenous troupe Manifest Destiny’s Child
• Michael Etherington, the cultural program manager of the Native Canadian Centre of Toronto
• Damien Lee, who grew up on the Fort William First Nation outside of Thunder Bay, Ont.

Suggested reading:

• Embarrassed? Uncomfortable? Defensive? Here’s Denise on why you should get over it and start talking about race
• If you’re brand new to the idea of Indian Status (we were), here’s a handy guide by Métis writer Chelsea Vowel, whose new book, Indigenous Writes, is out now.
• And if you’d like to know more about the issue of missing and murdered indigenous women in Canada, here’s some coverage The Globe and Mail has done so far.